in the depths of the pandemic i was roasting coffee in a warehouse in sand city, ca, basically in my airpods for 18 months straight, and i listened to thousands of hours of interviews.
the best journalists, podcasters, writers, speakers, comedians, really eloquent folks of all types, all do this. check me on it. sarah koenig of npr / serial fame is the goat, but everyone does it.
reminding yourself to do this is reminding yourself to be present, to actually be interested in being interested. and, it feels good when folks find you interesting, so these people that you are now coincidentally more interested in will also like you more.